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Iran's Battle for Iraq

The recent battles in Tikrit in Iraq have received a lot of press this week. In an interview yesterday, U.S. General Martin Dempsey said the reasons the Iraqi forces and Shiite militias have been doing so well is because the militias are armed and trained by Iran, which is also providing the militias with intelligence. He said Tikrit will eventually be recaptured because ISIS is so outnumbered in Tikrit. There are hundreds of ISIS fighters and an estimated 23,000 Iraqi and militia fighters.

Dempsey said the U.S. airstrikes around the Baji oil refinery over the past several months "paved the way" for the Iraqi forces and Shiite militias to advance to Tikrit, but the U.S. has had no involvement with the militias or the recent fights in Tikrit. [More...]

There are concerns Iran's involvement will aggravate sectarian tensions.

[Dempsey] said that “we’re alert to the challenges of having Iran supporting Shiite militia,” and Tehran’s influence had sparked concerns in the anti-IS coalition, which includes Sunni Arab countries that view Iran as a threat.

It was not clear if Iran shared the same strategic goals as the Washington-led coalition, he said. The international coalition was committed to a “unified” Iraq that represented the Sunni and Kurdish communities as well as the larger Shiite population, he said. “I want to make sure that those efforts can truly be complementary. If they can’t, we’re going to have a problem, “ he said.

Going to have a problem? It seems "we" already have one.

Hassan Hassan, writing in the Guardian, says Hashd al-Shaabi, the umbrella organisation for Iranian-backed Shia militias, has the lead offensive role in Tikrit. Iraq says Sunni tribal fighters are taking a prominent role, but Hassan says that's not true -- at best they have a "back-seat" role.

Hashd al-Shaabi has a track record of human rights abuses and sectarian and ethnic cleansing, as documented by Human Rights Watch. Instead of highlighting that Tikrit’s civilians have almost completely fled the city, the government should focus on ensuring no similar reprisals against civilians by these notorious militias are committed in Tikrit.

Hassan says the fight over Tikrit will boost Iran's militias but ultimately backfire politically.

A victory in Tikrit will boost Hashd al-Shaabi immensely in Iraq, politically, militarily and financially. The likely motivation is that Hashd al-Shaabi recognises that the fight against Isis in the Sunni districts of Tikrit will be a massive political win.

... However, unilaterally launching a revenge-tinged campaign in a Sunni area by sectarian militias with a track record of acts of cleansing will unavoidably be seen as a vigilante operation.

Hassan writes that ISIS will benefit from the Tikrit offensive even if it loses militarily, and it won't do anything to assist with the planned retake of Mosul. He also says ISIS will only be defeated in Iraq if the Sunnis do it.

If the history of fighting Isis, and its previous incarnations, can teach us one lesson, it is that Isis can only be defeated by Sunni from within. The idea that the offensive in Tikrit is a national effort is a myth.

...Isis will benefit from the offensive in Tikrit, even if it loses militarily, as long as the victors are sectarian militias that behave in a similar manner. ....the defeat of Isis in Tikrit will not help in the fight in Mosul. On the contrary, it will convince Sunni communities living under Isis that the alternative is just as bad.

Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi, another prominent researcher and analyst says the U.S. has already lost Iraq to Iran.

Concern has been expressed that the U.S. 'risks' losing Iraq to Iran in the fight against IS, but it is probably more accurate to say the U.S. has already lost Iraq to Iran. No good options seem to exist, and the expansion of Iran's sphere of influence may well have to be accepted as an inevitable consequence of the original decision to invade Iraq and remove Saddam's regime from power.

What does the Iranian state news say? Almost every recent news bulletin about Tikrit contains this paragraph:

The ISIL terrorists, many of whom were initially trained by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in Jordan in 2012 to destabilize the Syrian government, now control parts of Iraq and neighboring Syria. They have been engaged in crimes against humanity in the areas under their control.

Here's more on the direct involvement of Iran and its Quds Force leader Qassem Soleimani with the Shia militias in Iraq. And more from the Kurdish Globe.

The new war in Iraq seems just as doomed to failure as the last one.

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    Of course Iran controls the Shiites in Iraq (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Jack203 on Sun Mar 08, 2015 at 10:10:13 PM EST
    It's been clear for over a decade now.  

    Baghdad was never in danger of falling.  The Shiites
    in Iraq were always completely fine (with Iran's military behind them).  Obama was correct to not go to war to defend the Shiites.

    I'm assuming Tikrit and Mosul will fall.  If ISIS puts up a strong fight, they could prove to the world to be stronger and more resilient than many think.  Let's hope not.

    One possible positive outcome of this conflict with ISIS is our surprising alliance with Iran.  Iran is a country that would be very beneficial for us to be allies with.  

    Indeed (none / 0) (#2)
    by FlJoe on Mon Mar 09, 2015 at 12:58:54 PM EST
    It is high time we made amends with Iran. I think they would serve as a counterweight to the Sunni nations and their underground support of jihadism, I am looking at you Saudi Arabia. I think it would help us and the world in general if they were once became players on the world stage. Notwithstanding the crazy talk from their hardliners, I think the are a much saner then the hard-liners on our side  make them out to be.

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    And, FWIW, (none / 0) (#3)
    by NYShooter on Mon Mar 09, 2015 at 05:09:31 PM EST
    Iran has not initiated a war of aggression in many, many years. Their history seems to be, "live, and let live."

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    Or initiate a fight by proxy... (none / 0) (#5)
    by thomas rogan on Mon Mar 09, 2015 at 08:54:11 PM EST
    Can you say Hezbollah and Yemen?

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    The Iranians haven't initiated anything. (none / 0) (#6)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Mar 09, 2015 at 11:17:08 PM EST
    The political turmoil that's enveloped Lebanon long predates Hezbollah's 1983 arrival on the scene in that country by seven or eight years.

    Hezbollah has managed to establish itself within the Shi'ite-majority population in southern Lebanon, thanks largely to the political vacuum which has been in existence in the country since 1975. The situation was further exacerbated by the summary ejection of Yassir Arafat's PLO from the region by the Israeli military during "Operation Peace for Galilee" in June - Aug. 1982.

    Since its reconstitution at the end of the Lebanese Civil War in 1990, the Maronite-dominated central government in Beirut has failed to re-establish its authority anywhere outside the greater Beirut metropolitan area, due in large part to Syria's own political meddling in Lebanon and its military occupation of two-thirds of the country.

    And it should further be noted that remembered that Hezbollah's primary sponsor was Syria, through which Iran -- as Syria's ally -- funneled lots of financial assistance beginning in late 1982. To the extent that Hezbollah relies upon that financial aid, it can be argued that it is a proxy for Iranian interests. But that argument can also be turned on its head, because the same point has also been used to accurately describe the U.S. relationship with Israel.

    Iran has long been accused by the U.S. political right of having orchestrated the devastating suicide bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks on Oct. 23, 1983, which killed 241 Americans and wounded another 158, citing that the operation was carried out by an Iranian national affiliated with Islamic Jihad, which was part of Hezbollah. (Another simultaneous suicide attack by Islamic Jihad that same day also killed 58 French soldiers.)

    However, former Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger claimed in a September 2001 interview for the PBS series "Frontline" that the U.S. still lacks "actual knowledge of who did the bombing of the Marine barracks" in Beirut. And while Iran in 2004 erected a monument in Teheran honoring the "martyrs" of the 1983 Beirut attacks, that does not necessarily imply that its government had any direct involvement in the attack's planning and operation.

    A more plausible and likely explanation was that the attack on U.S. and French forces was mounted in direct retaliation for the Reagan administration's decision to intervene militarily on behalf of Maronite Lebanese forces, then battling the Syrian army and its Druze militia allies for control of the mountains east of Beirut. This support included significant U.S. naval bombardments and air attacks against Syrian and Druze positions.

    Thus, while the U.S. has officially labeled the attack on the Marine barracks as a "terrorist act," the truth is that the Regan administration waived any claim to non-combatant status under international law in the Lebanese Civil War, by virtue of its decision to intervene militarily on behalf of the Maronites.

    Further, those American attacks continued even after the Beirut bombing; on February 8, 1984, the battleship USS New Jersey fired 288 16-in. rounds at Syrian and Druze positions in the Bekaa Valley, which constituted the heaviest single naval bombardment since the Korean War and killed hundreds of people, including the Syrian army's commander in Lebanon.

    Aloha.

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    equivalence? (none / 0) (#10)
    by thomas rogan on Tue Mar 10, 2015 at 08:46:50 PM EST
    It may be that Israel is a proxy for US interests and Hezbollah is a proxy for Iranian interests, as you say.  If you see moral equivalence here, then have a happy life.

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    I don't know how in Jeralyn's words this (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 08:36:52 AM EST
    War is as doomed as the last one :). Iraq is not ours, and determining how it stabilizes wont be our design, we tried to pretend once that it was and we were schooled.  The only thing I see our involvement in is some stabilization.  The nation boundaries we once called Iraq are gone.  Iran will hold sway over Shia strongholds.  Many Shia were not fond of Saddams indoctrination of Iraqi nationalism, and they've dumped it. So be it.

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    You're probably right, Jeralyn. (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Mar 09, 2015 at 07:54:21 PM EST
    Jeralyn: "The new war in Iraq seems just as doomed to failure as the last one."

    In my honest opinion, our best course is a diplomatic one, by which we reconcile with the Islamic Republic of Iran, move beyond the decades-long atmosphere of mutual suspicion and constant recrimination that has existed between our two countries, and forge a new relationship between our peoples. We're never going to be able to forthrightly address our obvious problems with ISIS in Iraq, without the help and cooperation of that country's largest and most potentially influential neighbor.

    In many respects, the Iranian regime has of late behaved with much more circumspection and maturity than, say, a certain political party in our own country that desires to rule absolutely, yet time and again neglects to govern responsibly. From an open letter from 47 senators to Iran:

    "It has come to our attention while observing your nuclear negotiations with our government that you may not fully understand our constitutional system. First, under our Constitution, while the president negotiates international agreements, Congress plays a significant role in ratifying them. ... Anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement. [...] The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time."

    It should be both alarming and embarrassing to all Americans, that the Iranian foreign minister felt compelled to very politely school the 47 senators who signed that open letter, that:

    "[The] majority of US international agreements in recent decades are in fact what the signatories describe as mere executive agreements, and not treaties ratified by the Senate. [The foreign minister reminded the senators that] their letter in fact undermines the credibility of thousands of such mere executive agreements that have been or will be entered into by the US with various other governments [over the years.]"

    So, yeah, President Obama has some serious problems ahead as he attempts to not only deal with ISIS, but also navigate the murky waters of Middle Eastern politics and relationships on our country's behalf. Not the least of these problems is a wholly hostile group of federal legislators, who are actively working to undermine and / or short-circuit the State Dept.'s attempts to conclude a comprehensive and multilateral nuclear power / weapons agreement with Iran prior to the agreed March 24 deadline.

    In former times, such duplicity would have been roundly denounced as the sort of work worthy of "fifth columnists." Nowadays, these clowns simply go to their very own cable news network, wrap themselves in the American flag and claim that they're more patriotic than the president -- because he's, you know, near.

    Aloha.

    Iran (none / 0) (#7)
    by Slado on Tue Mar 10, 2015 at 07:19:43 AM EST
    Those calling for improving relations with Iran should be conscious of who we are dealing with.  

    One thing I find troubling is their generals leading the attacks against ISIS are the same generals who spent the last decade killing American soldiers.  

    Long War Journal

    The Atlantic

    National Journal

    Equally troubling is I'm not anxious to become strategic partners with a nation that has also helped Assad kill thousands of his own people in Syria .

    Here's a nice roundup of what the Iranians are saying about us and themselves.   I especially like the part where they accuse Isreal of being responsible for the Formation and support of Bokoh Haram.

    These people seem perfectly reasonable.  By all means let's let bygones be bygones and start a new international friendship.  


    Wow (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by FlJoe on Tue Mar 10, 2015 at 07:43:59 AM EST
    What a discovery, people kill each other in war. I can't wait until the very last German Nazi dies so we can finally make peace with Germany. I guess we have to wait another 60 years or so to deal with Vietnam. I am glad we are absolutely certain that nobody in the Iraqi government does not have American blood on there hands.

    I guess war just springs eternal in some peoples minds.


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    LOL, (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 10, 2015 at 05:09:57 PM EST
    Right after the Germans surrendered in 1945, the very next war was the scramble we initiated to round up as many Nazis we could find and bring them to the U.S. to help us in the post-war "peace."

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    Let me tell you the story (none / 0) (#13)
    by Politalkix on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 12:20:38 AM EST
    of Wernher Von Braun.

    He was a member of the Nazi party and the SS, and was suspected of perpetrating war crimes during World War II.

    In his twenties and early thirties, Braun was already the central figure in the Nazis' rocket development program, responsible for the design and realization of the V-2 rocket during World War II. After the war, he and selected members of his rocket team were taken to the United States as part of the secret Operation Paperclip. Braun worked on the United States Army's intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM) program before his group was assimilated by NASA. Under NASA, he served as director of the newly formed Marshall Space Flight Center and as the chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, the superbooster that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon. According to one NASA source, he is "without doubt, the greatest rocket scientist in history".In 1975 he received the National Medal of Science.

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    The war isn't over them (none / 0) (#11)
    by Slado on Tue Mar 10, 2015 at 11:27:02 PM EST
    they are taking up the vacuum we left behind, they are doing the hard work of defeating ISIS, they still want to destroy Isreal, they stil support Assad who I thought was supposed to go, they still want to build nuclear weapons and if yor read the links they are still spouting anti American propoganda.   But by all means, since the war is over for us let's make them an ally.  

    If our policy is to concede influence of the ME to Iran because we're tired of being there so be it.  I can be persuaded that it doesn't make much difference who is the dominant faith (Sunni or Shia) but let's not pretend any outcome is because we've established some sort of working relationship with a terrorist regime.  They will never do anything that doesn't benefit them and our president will fold like a wet blanket if given the chance because the only goal he seems to care about is getting any kind of nuclear deal with Iran they will sign.

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    Those (none / 0) (#12)
    by Politalkix on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 12:12:00 AM EST
    who are doormats for the Saudi regime have no standing to call anybody "wet blankets".

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    Dominate Faith (none / 0) (#14)
    by MO Blue on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 08:24:17 AM EST
    Based on sheer numbers alone, Shia will not be the dominate faith now or any time in the foreseeable future.

    Sunnis make up 87-90% of the the world's Muslims with a population of approximately 1.4 billion in 2010. Shia Muslims make up 10 - 13% of the world's Muslims with a population between 162 million and 285 million.

    Sunnis will continue to make up an overwhelming majority of Muslims in 2030. The number of Sunnis is projected to reach almost 2 billion by 2030 (between 1.91 billion and 1.97 billion), up from approximately 1.4 billion in 2010 (between 1.41 billion and 1.46 billion). Sunnis are expected to make up 87-90% of the world's Muslims in 20 years, roughly the same percentage as today. The number of Shia Muslims is projected to be between 219 million and 285 million in 2030, up from between 162 million and 211 million in 2010. Shia Muslims are expected to make up 10-13% of the world's Muslims, roughly the same percentage as today. link


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    Egypt used to want to destroy (none / 0) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 10:42:23 AM EST
    Israel too, and now they have a very strong alliance.  An alliance that defies conventional Western logic and some of the myths Americans believe about the Middle East.

    If nothing changes, then nothing can change.

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    You do know (none / 0) (#19)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 10:53:01 AM EST
    that these are multilateral talks don't you?
    because the only goal he seems to care about is getting any kind of nuclear deal with Iran they will sign.
    Statements like this seem to indicate otherwise.


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    which is precisely why (none / 0) (#20)
    by The Addams Family on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 03:14:58 PM EST
    the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, is unrelenting in keeping the pressure on John Kerry, since the French see the US approach as not "solid" enough

    i am not privy to these negotiations, of course, but those of us in the US can look back at the ACA deliberations if we need a reminder that Barack Obama is a terrible negotiator

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    The President of Iran 1/2015 (none / 0) (#16)
    by MO Blue on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 10:01:04 AM EST
    TEHRAN: Iran President Hassan Rouhani has censured terrorism and violence in the name of Islam in any part of the world.

    "We condemn extremism, violence and terrorism whether in Palestine, Lebanon and the Levant or in Paris and the US," Press TV reported citing Rouhani as saying at a meeting with the delegates to the Islamic Unity Conference here Friday.

    "Those who are unrightfully killing people and carrying out acts of violence and extremism in the name of Jihad, religion or Islam are, wittingly or unwittingly, treading the path of promoting Islamophobia and are actually fighting against Islam," he added .
    ...
    Rouhani emphasised that Iran condemns every person who supports terrorism and violence whether in the regional countries or in Europe and the US.
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    Also from wikipedia (none / 0) (#17)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 10:41:03 AM EST
    Iran: Both Iranian president Mohamed Khatami and Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei comdemned and denounced the attacks and the terrorists who carried the attacks out. Iranians who gathered for a soccer match in Tehran two days after the 9/11 attacks observed a moment of silence. There was also a candle light vigil
    .


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